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First Team Manager Required

By www.kingstonian.com (fwpbot)28/4/2019 13:12Sun Apr 28 13:12:52 2019

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Kingstonian invite applications for the post of First Team Manager.

Read the full news item at http://www.kingstonian.com/news/first-team-manager-required/258

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Re: First Team Manager Required

By JohnnyD28/4/2019 14:47Sun Apr 28 14:47:21 2019In response to First Team Manager RequiredTop of thread

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Congratulations to the club for targeting an experienced manager with a successful track record at a senior level who has strong motivational, organisational and communication skills, and who holds relevant senior coaching qualifications, and has a proven track record of developing young players.

This is a revolutionary step, thinking outside the box, the type of which simply can’t have been attempted at many football clubs before.

It’s this kind of radical, blue-sky thinking that’ll really get us places. It’s amazing no-one’s ever tried it before :-)

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Re: First Team Manager Required

By Tim30/4/2019 23:22Tue Apr 30 23:22:17 2019In response to Re: First Team Manager RequiredTop of thread

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How about Mark beard? He’s doing well with coaching the Brighton youth team. Or how about a return for Steve Sedgley, Built a good youthful side during his time here before leaving due to a falling out with the Khoslas. Two good managers in my eyes.

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Re: First Team Manager Required

By Olde School Ks (OldSchoolKs)1/5/2019 06:17Wed May 1 06:17:43 2019In response to Re: First Team Manager RequiredTop of thread

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Always liked Mark Beard and if he would find Ks a step up it would be great.
Someone who would encourage the youth into the team and to lead a team of players who wanted to play for the club would be something new and at the the same time going back to how it used to be...........
A team together.
Nice one Tim,always a voice of reason

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Re: First Team Manager Required

By Alastair28/4/2019 15:26Sun Apr 28 15:26:21 2019In response to Re: First Team Manager RequiredTop of thread

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In fairness, not one of those things applied to Leigh Dynan when he was appointed, so let's hope lessons actually have been learned...!

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Re: First Team Manager Required

By reximus28/4/2019 17:04Sun Apr 28 17:04:26 2019In response to Re: First Team Manager RequiredTop of thread

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experienced manager with a successful track record at a senior level, possessing strong motivational, organisational and communication skills, holding the relevant senior coaching qualifications, and have a proven track record of developing young players.

Seriously, given the details in that ideal person spec, how the fluck did Leigh Dynan ever get the job??

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Re: First Team Manager Required

By Olde School Ks (OldSchoolKs)28/4/2019 21:44Sun Apr 28 21:44:14 2019In response to Re: First Team Manager RequiredTop of thread

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Having got it and made a complete mess of it,how did he keep it for so long ?

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Re: First Team Manager Required

By Morgs29/4/2019 13:23Mon Apr 29 13:23:37 2019In response to Re: First Team Manager RequiredTop of thread

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There's not really any such thing as a readymade identikit manager for a specific situation. Maybe at top level a club can be sure what it'll get with Pulis, Warnock or Allardyce in a backs-to-the-wall scenario in the Premier League or when needing to get out of the Championship. In the distant past, all three of those, especially Allardyce, have been in charge of clubs where their teams played far more expansive football than their current reputation gives them credit for. Craig Edwards might be close to that identikit at this level.

Margins are fine. There's a hell of a lot of luck involved in whether signings work out, how players respond to coaching methods and how resilient squads might be when under pressure if results take a turn for the worse. Take a look at two possible candidates for the K's hotseat: Dave Anderson and Terry Brown. I'm not saying the Club should go for either.
Both were seen as very successful when appointed at AFC Wimbledon.
The margins that saw Anderson fail to get the Wombles past this level, while Brown got them promoted twice through play-offs, were extremely slim. Anderson's Wombles got a daft red card in the play-offs at Bromley. Brown's Wombles had the run of the ball in the play-offs: edging a Staines side that was running on empty after a fixture pile-up and beating Luton on penalties.
Anderson had a long period away from the game after doing OK at Harrow, presumably still working as a van driver while doing his Non-League media stuff. Somehow he pitched-up at Chertsey Town with a £2,000 per week budget. Chertsey have predictably sluiced home in the Combined Counties League and have a Vase Final at Wembley to look forward to.
Meanwhile, Brown was lauded - and presumably well-rewarded - for getting the Wombles into the Football League. I doubt he was delivering to off-licences in a van to earn a crust. He subsequently shagged-up with plenty of cash (not Stuart) at Margate. He hasn't set the world on fire at Basingstoke. The full-time plan didn't work and they've just been relegated to Step 4 with Brown as Director of Football.
Was Anderson a worse manager at Wombles and Harrow than he was at Hendon?
Was Brown a better manager at Wombles than he had been at Hayes and Aldershot? Is he a useless twat now?
I doubt it in either case.

A promising young manager, seemingly without much relevant experience might work - a la Mourinho. A highly-qualified and universally well-thought-of young manager, without much experience, might shag-up - a la Villas-Boas or Ian Cathro.
A seemingly safe choice of an experienced manager may turn out to be anything but a safe choice.
Look at the choices Manchester United have made recently... or the choices Manchester City made over a period of 30+ years!
There are no right answers to this one.

Edited by Morgs at 13:26:08 on 29th April 2019

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By reximus29/4/2019 13:37Mon Apr 29 13:37:10 2019In response to Re: First Team Manager RequiredTop of thread

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Useful, thoughtful stuff, Morgs. Thank you.

I think we can agree though that one desirable character trait at this level is the kind of willing personality that works both on and off the pitch, with both the players and the supporters. Alan Dowson was a fantastic example of this; Tony Reid could be similar.

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Re: First Team Manager Required

By Morgs29/4/2019 14:44Mon Apr 29 14:44:39 2019In response to Re: First Team Manager RequiredTop of thread

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Possibly the main problem is the question of what the manager's brief will be.
The budget provided last summer suggested promotion was the goal. I'd guess a play-off place would've been par for that budget. What was the plan in the event of promotion having been achieved?
I'm not keeping up to date with recent changes in ground grading regulations, but presumably the Club would have been allowed to go up and had one season's grace to get Tolworth up to scratch for National League South football.
The regulation prohibiting a groundshare being arranged purely to meet ground grading requirements is still in force, isn't it?
Clearly nobody is going to tell a prospective manager, "We don't want to go up" - that would be un-necessary because the ground-grading bridge can be crossed if the Club comes to it - but splashing out on what should be a top-five budget seems injudicious in the current circumstances.
I've said before, it's got to the stage where squirreling the Wombles money in a safe place and trying to hang-on in this division seems the way to go until the ground conundrum is solved.
If the Board can find a bang-average mid-table budget, this looks the way to go. The 11th or 12th highest budget in the division should see the Club safe from a relegation scrap, unless things go badly wrong, and might easily see a play-off push if things go well with injuries & luck.
A run of nondescript mid-table seasons, without an FA Cup run, could see support dwindle further but, as things stand, consolidation at this level, on a prudent and stable budget, seems the logical option. I can't see many prospective managers being put off by that - an average budget is what most work with throughout their managerial careers.

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