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Lovelace
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When are we being told that the dream is over and we're all dead at the bottom of Ando's cliff?
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Depends whether we can sell the idea as a massive new private housing development with a bit of green spaces to play on
Although John Sweeney will like the idea if we can also get it built by 2024 as the best leisure centre in London, nay the country
Alternatively- anyone for Kingston Borough FC when we become inevitably part of the CorCas team
(Either option is cynical but equally probable)
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"Alternatively- anyone for Kingston Borough FC when we become inevitably part of the CorCas team"
Chocolate, pink, red & white hoops. It'll be an original kit at least.
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My fall was cushioned by the broken corpses of other Ks fans, so I survived. I'm ready to leap off the Athletics track cliff now!
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It’s the worst kept secret, hopefully we’ll be told soon.
Don’t know when the interview will be done, Jamie hopefully can tell us a rough idea or will the missing JBS do it
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Why does it need a half hour video to say a couple of paragraphs? no wonder there’s no progress if this is how we end up communicating
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My sentiments exactly Anderson's smoke screen again ? While all this is going on the board is gradually chipping away at what's left of the clubs finances, I hear him say we have 750,000 towards a ground it's shrinking.
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Why does it need a half hour video to say a couple of paragraphs? no wonder there’s no progress if this is how we end up communicating
Could be a 4th/ 5th/ 6th (whatever the number of location mentioned/linked to) possibly location
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We will be therefore the envy of the league.
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I'm pretty sure they said in the interview with Lee that it'll be in the next two weeks. That was ten days ago.
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Oh dear, their deadline has passed with no news.
Probably Jamie's fault.
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I guess we'll see if anything gets posted on here this evening...
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Re: Lovelace, to where after
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I guess we'll see if anything gets posted on here this evening...
Will probably get the video before the start of pre season & anyway we know what’s going to be said.
We were on the meeting agenda but again it was removed & we’re back at square one again.
I think we have to accept barring a miracle, we’re never getting a home. To many false hopes. Its frustrating but nowt we can do. We competing with “affordable” housing developments and in the borough & we’re never going to win (barring a big miracle, very unlikely)
The question I leave for now:
Where’s our next home to play isthmian football? Dulwich/ Dorking
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Walton and Hampton with their 3G’s more immediate than those
Dulwich is only good if you’re actively looking to kill the club to form another one
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Is Walton not a real possibility now as Walton Casuals have closed down?
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Is Walton not a real possibility now as Walton Casuals have closed down?
Walton & Hersham play there as well.
Other problem is transport links to ground, considering people are moaning about get to tooting. There is no direct trains to Walton from Raynes Park (have to go to Wimbledon or Surbiton) plus it’s not in the Oyster card zone. Plus the bus from Kingston doesn’t let you use your Oyster card & runs a odd times & stops running after 10.
Certain people complaining about having to get to Tooting but happy to Walton even though Tooting is easier. Is this another push to play southern league football, where if you don’t drive you’ll spend most of the day traveling by train/ bus. But who cares, the fans that can afford it are probably the real fans.
The message is clear from certain people
Edited by KsOllie at 12:11:45 on 4th July 2022
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One person has suggested it, there isn't a push from either the club or the fans to play in Walton. In the long term it would be a disaster and as a groundshare it would be no better than Mitcham, for the reasons given on here.
There's no push to play Southern League either. There is a push that we should stay at close to Kingston as we can while groundsharing, which either means doing a deal with Met Police or Hampton, or mending fences with Casuals.
Any of those could mean a switch to the Southern League, or they might not. Casuals would probably have gone this season had Leatherhead been reprieved, so it might be our future anyway.
We fundamentally need to prioritise our home crowds, and within that how many Kingstonian fans we have in our home crowd. Not away fans, groundhoppers or disgruntled Tooting fans. That's what will hold the fabric of the club together while we're homeless.
It may mean some of us find it harder to get to some away games, I'd count myself in that too. I wouldn't be going to Taunton on a Tuesday night either. But perhaps that's a cost for keeping the club in healthy order with good home crowds. And for those who don't drive, presumably the SC would continue to run subsidised coaches as they do at the moment.
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Ultimately, all that any of us can do at the moment is speculate on where our permanent new home will be and where we'll be ground-sharing in the interim. We can make suggestions and offer opinions, of course but we've been told that the Board should not reasonably be expected to trawl through here for every latest comment.
Which is why we need that promised update from Mark Anderson. It's also why we need a proper vehicle for providing suggestions (if it's not already too late) and feedback.
Video updates from Mark are quite infrequent. Can we hope that the next one will be followed by a conversation (call it a Fans Forum, if you like)?
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Can we hope that the next one will be followed by a conversation (call it a Fans Forum, if you like)?
100%. The best time would have been last Autumn, when it was clear that Goals had fallen through and the Casuals groundshare was in doubt.
The next best time is now.
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Plus the ground is nowhere near the train station (about a 40 minute walk each way).
There’s been no mention from the club about going to Walton whatsoever. It would be jumping the gun somewhat given we haven’t had 1 game at Imperial Fiemds yet.
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Pretty sure it was a real possibility before - IIRC the "Friday night" question from the board when we were looking for one of our many new homes was because one of the options on the table already had two clubs playing there, which I think was the Waltons.
If correct, I'm guessing you're right that it could/should be back on the agenda.
Unless our agenda is still only filled by the doomed Lovelace plan, which would be mad, but sadly believable.
FWIW, I think Walton would be another on the slow death of the club list. Facilities wise it's fine, but not only is it not Kingston, it's a real arse to get to for somewhere that's not *that* far away. Better than Tooting? Maybe, but we shouldn't be there either.
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Mark has said publicly that the club is pursuing several options concurrently; all of which are in the borough.
As far as I know, there is no interest whatsoever in Walton Xcel. There certainly shouldn’t be.
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Great news - the slow death of Kingstonian is not what anyone wants. Hopefully we can now crack on with ruling Lovelace out officially too before any more money / time / emotion is spent on that. Kingston is our biggest asset.
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Being the team of Kingston is definitely our biggest asset. Hopefully others start seeing things that way soon as well. Hopefully once Mark gives his interview things will become clearer. Let's hope that we get some good news at some point as this close season has not been the best really.
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Why is Kingston ‘our biggest assets’? Wouldn’t the biggest asset be anywhere in RBK where a viable facility could be built?
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I would say it is because we are the team of Kingston and have always been the team of Kingston. There is no other club that represents Kingston and as such is our best chance of keeping the club going is keeping it in the town where our roots are. If that means playing in an athletics stadium so be it. Enfield have shown it can work and now that AFC Wimbledon are not the only show in town it is the opportune moment to remind everyone in town that we exist and that we need/want their support. For me it is the way to grow the club again.
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we are currently Kingston's team, that's our asset (unless and until another team takes it from us) . we're just away from Kingston in the short term
a mythical ground on an unidentified site is at best a hope.
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That’s not an asset in any tangible sense though, especially if it means discounting other alternatives which may be in the Borough but not in Kingston.
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It's certainly an intangible asset that is something to work with and use to our advantage though...
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spending my life with a valuation Mergers and aquistions expert - i never thought to see " intangible assett" on here - i love it on here
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Being the team of Kingston is definitely our biggest asset. Hopefully others start seeing things that way soon as well. Hopefully once Mark gives his interview things will become clearer. Let's hope that we get some good news at some point as this close season has not been the best really.
The problem is we’re fighting the battle of the housing crisis, unless we help another team find a home and promise a ridiculous number of homes with the ground, we’re playing second/third/forth fiddle.
Walto would be signing our death warrant quicker, easy to get to IF you drive & live/work in the borough of Kingston. Which some have some of that luxury
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It doesn't all rely on housing. I went to that Colliers Wood game at Epsom & Ewell High School at the weekend. Interesting to see what can be done when people link up with schools, and DfE pays some of the costs.
There is a school being built on the council-owned Kingsmeadow site this decade.
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It doesn't all rely on housing. I went to that Colliers Wood game at Epsom & Ewell High School at the weekend. Interesting to see what can be done when people link up with schools, and DfE pays some of the costs.
There is a school being built on the council-owned Kingsmeadow site this decade.
At this point I’ll take the David Weir/ whatever it now called stadium
Hopefully we’d be able to stand behind the goal like Enfield.
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"easy to get to IF you drive"
Even that's not exactly true. I used to work at the Walton end of the main road that goes from Walton to Hampton Court & had to make the twice-a-day choice of being stuck in traffic in Esher trying to get to the A3 or being stuck in traffic between Hampton Court/Kingston Bridge. You could always cross the bridge in Walton & get stuck in traffic trying to get down to the A316 as a third option too.
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Walton went out of business due to too many costly away Southern League matches and the fact that their only revenue was gate receipts. The Walton Hub stadium is privately owned so food & drink profits went to the owners not the football club.
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Walton would be a terrible idea even as a temporary groundshare. It’s too difficult to get to and would also mean Southern League football.
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Walton would be a terrible idea even as a temporary groundshare. It’s too difficult to get to and would also mean Southern League football.
I think they’d a good number of fans who want to move to the southern league (most of those are lucky enough have a license to drive, which is helpful when going to away games especially midweek games.) Honestly I don’t know why, we’d probably have a respectful home crowd but our away following would go down.
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Walton would mean 5 home games per year for me max.
Leaatherhead I enjoyed but it was LD at the helm for a lot of it - ouch
Tolworth - hated the ground but some good memories and parking at Selco was easy
Toots - lets see
Walton may be bearable for the majority of the Hardcore - not me
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Maybe Jamie is busy. Or at Glastonbury?
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Maybe Jamie is busy. Or at Glastonbury?
Could the missing JBS get the call up………
Probably pre recorded
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Apart from the athletics stadium in Norbiton is there anywhere else nearby the town centre remotely feasible as a future home?
Ksuals
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