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Communications

By Cardiff Ks (reximus)17/3 12:03Sun Mar 17 12:03:39 2024

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A month ago today, the new Chairman promised better and regular communications with the supporters - since when we've heard NOTHING from him.

He's recording an interview this evening. Things to look out for:

* a business plan
* a marketing plan
* a plan to grow attendances
* a plan to grow sponsorship income
* a plan to return us to the Borough that doesn't involve wasting the next two years pursuing a ground-share in a residential area that the local population absolutely will not accept
* a clear and unequivocal commitment to embrace fan ownership
* an apology for lying to the supporters over the AFCW money
* what happens if we achieve promotion next season

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Re: Communications

By roseyw14/4 22:11Sun Apr 14 22:11:12 2024In response to CommunicationsTop of thread

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Just to note that the SC themselves have not been fulfilling their own promises - in last September's AGM, the new SC committee promised they would send regular reports of meetings to the website for publishing, but after sending one on 22 Sept, nothing further. The direct email newsletters have been good though.
The SC didn't request updated webpages or ask for space in the programme, for news or to advertise any events eg no Xmas party, Race night, other fundraiser or end of season event - also there have been no requests to advertise merchandise or the hot drinks or Away Travel or even to ask for help if needed. There has been no update on the several tasks the committee were planning to investigate, no additional revenue streams announced. What have they been doing apart from getting t-shirts for protests?
It is a pity because the new committee members were quite certain they would do so much more than previous committees.

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Re: Communications

By Korky111/5 12:58Sat May 11 12:58:12 2024In response to Re: CommunicationsTop of thread

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Well said.Rosey,

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Re: Communications

By jon tolley11/5 09:27Sat May 11 09:27:20 2024In response to Re: CommunicationsTop of thread

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Hi rosey

Have you retracted this baseless claim that the supporters’ club got those t-shirts made for protests? I haven’t seen it anywhere.

someone mentioned it last night to me and I thought why would they think that. and then I saw this post this morning and it reminded me of repercussions of people spreading disinformation

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Re: Communications

By Mike (KsMikey)28/4 09:40Sun Apr 28 09:40:34 2024In response to Re: CommunicationsTop of thread

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What have they been doing apart from getting t-shirts for protests?.

You have proof of this?

That is some allegation to make

As for away travel? There’s been quite a bit going on. And with concessions too. It’s not so much as a revenue raiser, although I’m sure people would like it to be but more of a service to allow people to get to away games, especially those who may find public transportation a bit of a difficulty and also those without access to private vehicles

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Re: Communications

By Cardiff Ks (reximus)15/4 14:04Mon Apr 15 14:04:42 2024In response to Re: CommunicationsTop of thread

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Hi Rosey

Minutes of all Supporters Club Committee Meetings 2023-24 (since the AGM) can be found on the Documents page on the SC blogspot at https://comeonuks.wordpress.com/documents/

You're right - not everything with the new SC Cttee is perfect, but we're doing our best. Personally, I think we're right to prioritise good supporters communications and holding the Directors to account, rather than organising a race night. We're very grateful to those members of the previous Committee who agreed to stay on and help with the new.

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Re: Communications

By Korky115/4 14:13Mon Apr 15 14:13:17 2024In response to Re: CommunicationsTop of thread

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Hear Hear.

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Re: Communications

By Gary (gekins)14/4 22:30Sun Apr 14 22:30:14 2024In response to Re: CommunicationsTop of thread

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What have they been doing apart from getting t-shirts for protests?

The T-shirts were nothing to do with the SC.

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Re: Communications

By OptimisticK17/3 15:53Sun Mar 17 15:53:01 2024In response to CommunicationsTop of thread

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Massive credit to the Yioryos for taking time out of his Sunday to engage with the supporters - a great sign of things to come. Very much looking forward tot his!

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Re: Communications

By Cardiff Ks (reximus)17/3 18:26Sun Mar 17 18:26:11 2024In response to Re: CommunicationsTop of thread

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Massive credit to the Yioryos for taking time out of his Sunday to engage with the supporters - a great sign of things to come. Very much looking forward tot his!

I admire your optimism, Mr Optimistic K. Just think how badly it would reflect on the Chairman if he fails to deliver. Or fails to even show up!

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Re: Communications

By OptimisticK18/3 07:47Mon Mar 18 07:47:40 2024In response to Re: CommunicationsTop of thread

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Share your frustrations as I was looking forward to this too.

Perhaps he’s waiting for another time because some imminent news about the new ground is about to break.

Let’s give the new man a chance - he’s only got his foot in the door!

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Re: Communications

By Filipo18/3 08:47Mon Mar 18 08:47:18 2024In response to Re: CommunicationsTop of thread

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New man? The chairman has been on the board since 2017!

At the supporters club committee meeting last week we were advised the chairman would be speaking with KBH at the weekend and an announcement/interview would take place.

This has not happened.

Many fans of our club and other clubs feel we only have a few years left to exist!

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Re: Communications

By K's196018/3 09:00Mon Mar 18 09:00:53 2024In response to Re: CommunicationsTop of thread

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I find these comments very distressing, I try to stay positive and hope this will not happen. I became one of Jack Goodchild's what you might call ' Jack's Barmy Army' in the late Fifties and they were the most enjoyable times I have had following this great club. I hope that the sun will shine again on K's

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Re: Communications

By Kingting (Ksuals)18/3 09:24Mon Mar 18 09:24:43 2024In response to Re: CommunicationsTop of thread

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Action not hope the clock is ticking

Ksuals

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Re: Communications

By Count Scarlioni17/3 19:37Sun Mar 17 19:37:33 2024In response to Re: CommunicationsTop of thread

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He is probably too embarrassed to show up Rex, either that or there is no plan.

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Re: Communications

By PlayupKs17/3 13:45Sun Mar 17 13:45:54 2024In response to CommunicationsTop of thread

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Just something on the website confirming who our directors are would be a good start… as opposed to springing a new board on fans in a meeting suddenly and no follow-up since. If you didn’t attend that you’re not meant to know who is on the board apparently.

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Re: Communications

By Kingting (Ksuals)17/3 13:31Sun Mar 17 13:31:21 2024In response to CommunicationsTop of thread

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What happens if we achieve promotion next season ?
As things stand - a miracle

Ksuals

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Re: Communications

By Count Scarlioni17/3 13:24Sun Mar 17 13:24:52 2024In response to CommunicationsTop of thread

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Perhaps he meant regular annual communication.

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Bottled it

By Filipo17/3 18:21Sun Mar 17 18:21:50 2024In response to Re: CommunicationsTop of thread

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Just heard the Chairman has refused to be interviewed tonight despite previously agreeing to it.

Says it all

Anyone backing this shambles now should be seen as aiding and abetting the destruction of our Kingstonian Football club!

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Re: Bottled it

By Jim18/3 15:44Mon Mar 18 15:44:29 2024In response to Bottled itTop of thread

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As usual you have your facts wrong. We have not bottled it. We have asked to put it back until Sunday 24th to enable the full facts about the AFC agreement to be obtained. We are ready and willing to reply to the questions then.

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Re: Bottled it

By JamieB (JBreeze)11/5 01:45Sat May 11 01:45:55 2024In response to Re: Bottled itTop of thread

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As a member of the SC i still await your apology to the organisation I am apart of that called this out .

You attack one you attack us all (minus John Bangs that thinks the boards word is gospel)

History never forgives the appeasers

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Edited by JBreeze at 01:49:01 on 11th May 2024

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Re: Bottled it

By JamieB (JBreeze)27/4 23:13Sat Apr 27 23:13:20 2024In response to Re: Bottled itTop of thread

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*john bangs style distraction*

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Re: Bottled it

By jon tolley13/4 20:22Sat Apr 13 20:22:00 2024In response to Re: Bottled itTop of thread

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I don’t want to add to this, because input on the message board from Directors is important

but also, words have meanings

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Missing Pt 2

By JamieB (JBreeze)13/4 19:33Sat Apr 13 19:33:15 2024In response to Re: Bottled itTop of thread

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As usual you have your facts wrong. We have not bottled it. We have asked to put it back until Sunday 24th to enable the full facts about the AFC agreement to be obtained. We are ready and willing to reply to the questions then.

This hasn't aged well. Slagging off the SC with this but being missing since and still no answers

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Re: Missing Pt 2

By Filipo13/4 19:35Sat Apr 13 19:35:46 2024In response to Missing Pt 2Top of thread

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Jim wants to be on the board but has absolutely nothing to say or give

DON’T BE LIKE JIM!

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Re: Missing Pt 2

By Korky113/4 21:17Sat Apr 13 21:17:47 2024In response to Re: Missing Pt 2Top of thread

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Jim would be a disaster as a board member,he gave away the last five figures of trust money to the board to upgrade the lights at the training ground,that never happened,he is an opponent of the S/C.

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Re: Missing Pt 2

By berlioz14/4 08:52Sun Apr 14 08:52:49 2024In response to Re: Missing Pt 2Top of thread

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I find the silence so odd. If I’m clutching at straws maybe we are going to be told that the AFCW money is going to be invested in a way that allows us to cover ground shares without eroding the money any further.

Or maybe it’s been invested in NFTs and has all gone.

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Re: Missing Pt 2

By Count Scarlioni14/4 09:24Sun Apr 14 09:24:59 2024In response to Re: Missing Pt 2Top of thread

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Being charitable I can only assume that the new people will come on the board at the end of this abysmal experience.

But the total disconnect between owners, directors and fans is absolutely shocking and confirms that the directors of the club cannot be that bothered about the fans.

Walton & Hersham’s directors made a controversial decision last week and the successful manager and a quarter of the squad left shaking the club to its roots. However the directors were in the bar after yesterday’s game and said “come and talk to us” and are arranging a fans forum to explain their decision.

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Re: Missing Pt 2

By Suom Ynona13/4 19:35Sat Apr 13 19:35:27 2024In response to Missing Pt 2Top of thread

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Too busy sniffing bicycle seats

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Re: Bottled it

By JamieB (JBreeze)25/3 22:58Mon Mar 25 22:58:04 2024In response to Re: Bottled itTop of thread

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As usual you have your facts wrong. We have not bottled it. We have asked to put it back until Sunday 24th to enable the full facts about the AFC agreement to be obtained. We are ready and willing to reply to the questions then.

Bearing in mind you had the questions in advance what's to stop the answers now being published?

Would also like to know why the apparent changes that have been told in person have been hidden from companies house, that is so bizarre to me

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Edited by JBreeze at 23:00:35 on 25th March 2024

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Re: Bottled it

By JamieB (JBreeze)24/3 22:08Sun Mar 24 22:08:15 2024In response to Re: Bottled itTop of thread

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Do we know if an interview was done today?

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Re: Bottled it

By KsOllie25/3 08:01Mon Mar 25 08:01:14 2024In response to Re: Bottled itTop of thread

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Do we know if an interview was done today?

Hopefully so, though would love to know when it the interview will be released

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Re: Bottled it

By Cardiff Ks (reximus)25/3 09:20Mon Mar 25 09:20:28 2024In response to Re: Bottled itTop of thread

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When I last checked on Friday, no new date for the interview had been arranged.

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Re: Bottled it

By BedfordshireK (BedfordshireK)25/3 11:42Mon Mar 25 11:42:38 2024In response to Re: Bottled itTop of thread

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Correct.
I’ve kept quiet on this, but the below is what happened: after I offered to conduct the interview with the chairman, there was some back and forth. He asked for questions related to the AFC Wimbledon money in advance of the interview, which I was reluctant to provide, but went along with to try and make it happen.
12 hours before the interview, I sent over this message:

Questions for later

The afc money. What was agreed? How much has been spent on the playing budget? How much of the playing budget did this represent? Why wasn’t this more fully communicated? Could we have been smarter with the original money (invested etc) or did the deal not allow it?

Other topics - current board make up; strategy moving towards; likelihood of our own ground (do we have enough money, how many options are in play)


I then had a message (I won’t post his messages, they’re his to share) saying that the interview would no longer take place that day as he was busy during the day (the implication being that he didn’t have time to prepare), I replied saying:

That’s disappointing. I’d told you the areas to discuss, so there’s no surprises there and nothing you shouldn’t have an answer to, and I’d moved things around to make this [time]work.

I then received a long reply explaining why 12 hours wasn’t enough time to prepare for the questions above and that we could do it the next week with all the directors.

To be honest, I didn’t reply to that message, and I’m not going to chase it. I felt a bit messed around, if the board want to do it, they can ask again, but I’ve been at our two games since those messages, and no one from the board has asked me about it.

I don’t think there was anything in my questions that the chairman of Ks, who has been on the board for 7/8 years should need more than 12 hours to prepare for, or that they shouldn’t know off the top of their heads. Surely the details of the deal with AFC are, if not immediately known, easily accessible.

So I’m left with a few options of what’s happening : a chairman without the requisite knowledge to do the job; a board dodging anything resembling a tough question; or a board needing a week to come up with any kind of decent answers as to where the money has gone.

None of which fill me with immediate hope. Apologies to those who were looking forward to the interview, maybe it’ll happen soon, but sorry to say I’m past the point of spending my time chasing and nagging to make it happen.

Edited by BedfordshireK at 11:44:45 on 25th March 2024

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Re: Bottled it

By Southampton K25/3 18:03Mon Mar 25 18:03:08 2024In response to Re: Bottled itTop of thread

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or a board needing a week to come up with any kind of decent answers as to where the money has gone.

Unfortunately it does rather seem they need time to get their stories straight!


Paul
Southampton K

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Re: Bottled it

By BedfordshireK (BedfordshireK)25/3 11:53Mon Mar 25 11:53:15 2024In response to Re: Bottled itTop of thread

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(ps. there's nothing wrong with saying "I don't know" or "I'll need to look into that" during an interview, such as whether the AFC money could have been invested etc.)

Meanwhile it's over a month since the meeting, and no communication has gone out about the board makeup, nor any updates to companies house.

Edited by BedfordshireK at 11:54:35 on 25th March 2024

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Re: Bottled it

By Mike (KsMikey)25/3 17:44Mon Mar 25 17:44:33 2024In response to Re: Bottled itTop of thread

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Thank you

It takes two to tango and if one party isn’t willing to, then you’re left without a dance

You’ve tried your best and done something I wouldn’t have done in my reporting days decades ago - sent some questions in advance. You’ve bent over backwards to accommodate but he has done nothing

And if the Chair is reading this - prove me wrong. You won’t

I’m not sure what he’s trying to prove other then he either doesn’t care for the club or he’s unable to run the club

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Re: Bottled it

By irishk25/3 12:03Mon Mar 25 12:03:47 2024In response to Re: Bottled itTop of thread

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100%

No doubt the board will blame BedfordshireK for the delay but they have a website, an internet connection and presumably they each have a keyboard. Communicating is not that difficult.

It was a great performance from Yiorg on the night in that he captured the hearts of people clinging on to hope. He wanted to be judged from that point forward. But ever since it’s been same old, same old.

One lifelong K’s fan recently asked a board member at a game if we could announce our new signings. He was told that the board had more important things to worry about. True perhaps, but sums up so much about the state of the club.

Still so many unanswered questions from that night in February too…

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Re: Bottled it

By Gary (gekins)25/3 12:06Mon Mar 25 12:06:38 2024In response to Re: Bottled itTop of thread

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Might have to dig the t-shirts out again...

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how incredibly disappointing

By jon tolley25/3 11:51Mon Mar 25 11:51:45 2024In response to Re: Bottled itTop of thread

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it felt like something had changed at the face to face meeting, but on the face of it, it now seems like very little has changed.

how disappointing

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Re: Bottled it

By KsOllie25/3 11:37Mon Mar 25 11:37:28 2024In response to Re: Bottled itTop of thread

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When I last checked on Friday, no new date for the interview had been arranged.

I’d thought I heard it was supposedly rearranged for yesterday (Sunday), unless I heard wrong. Hopefully it did take place otherwise be a shame.

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Re: Bottled it

By Filipo25/3 13:21Mon Mar 25 13:21:47 2024In response to Re: Bottled itTop of thread

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I’m all for given people chances and moving forward BUT we’ve given this guy how many chances over the past 7/8 years and the club has deteriorated with him on the board.

This guy and his pals are not the people to take the club forward, it’s plain to see.

We’ve lost a year of change thanks to the egos of individuals refusing to relinquish control and allow others to help the club grow. The club situation has got significantly worse in that time.

We must now all pull together and act to save this club. This chairman and his pals need to step aside with immediate affect.

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Re: Bottled it

By ollie18/3 21:08Mon Mar 18 21:08:18 2024In response to Re: Bottled itTop of thread

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Hi Jim, hope you're well.

The issue of the AFCW draw down was something identified by the KBH group. It became one of our red lines and was also part of our calculated commitment to £150k new money into the club. I find it unbelievable (but more worrying if true) that the current chairman - who I believe has been on the board for 7(?) years - does not know the full facts when a group of outsiders who were consistently denied access to the accounts to complete due diligence could see it so clearly.
To the new directors, welcome. But I find it equally worrying that these new directors now also say they don't have the full facts. What due diligence took place before investing? If none, is this the real reason these new offers were chased down by the chairman and outgoing directors so quickly, whilst delaying and crashing an offer of significant new investment into the club itself?

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Re: Bottled it

By Cardiff Ks (reximus)18/3 15:58Mon Mar 18 15:58:03 2024In response to Re: Bottled itTop of thread

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The supporters have been asking for the full facts about the AFCW agreement for years. What difference will an extra week make?

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Re: Bottled it

By John Bangs18/3 18:03Mon Mar 18 18:03:06 2024In response to Re: Bottled itTop of thread

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It is true that people have been asking for information of this type for several years. However, we have a largely new board of directors and if the questions were specific in detail, I can understand that they might want to have time to check detailed facts before replying.

The interview being delayed by one week is not at all the same thing as refusing to be interviewed.

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Re: Bottled it

By Cardiff Ks (reximus)18/3 18:58Mon Mar 18 18:58:52 2024In response to Re: Bottled itTop of thread

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Yioryos has been on the Board of Directors since 2017. It's simply staggering to think that he hasn't got the answers to these questions already.

And excuse me, but... the Chairman will only be interviewed if questions are submitted in advance?? How very North Korea of him.

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Re: Bottled it

By Korky125/3 18:40Mon Mar 25 18:40:06 2024In response to Re: Bottled itTop of thread

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Ah,So,arseholes 😀

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Re: Bottled it

By John Bangs18/3 19:51Mon Mar 18 19:51:14 2024In response to Re: Bottled itTop of thread

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Well that does rather depend on how detailed the questions that Jamie was asking where to be. It is perfectly plausible that they needed time to check on the answers, but without knowing what the questions are, it’s hard to say.

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Re: Bottled it

By Generic_K18/3 20:09Mon Mar 18 20:09:02 2024In response to Re: Bottled itTop of thread

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I would be prepared to bet my house that *when they can be bothered to answer* any questions put to them, the answers will be as wishy-washy and lacking of substance as usual.

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Re: Bottled it

By Filipo18/3 19:31Mon Mar 18 19:31:42 2024In response to Re: Bottled itTop of thread

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I can only go on the evidence presented to me Jim. We could compare notes but I feel like you may have been lied to already.

Now whilst we are on the subject of transparency, trust, honesty-you know all those things we would want from a board of directors, when will you be opening the books?

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Re: Bottled it

By Count Scarlioni17/3 18:24Sun Mar 17 18:24:13 2024In response to Bottled itTop of thread

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I doubt he has much to say anyway. There has been no change of directors at companies house so one can only assume that the best that can be said if best is the word is that matters are on hold pending our appalling relegation and move to the cowfield in Raynes Park.

I would be totally staggered to hear him unfurl a plan to get through next week let alone on the Napoleonic scale of Rex’s trailer.

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Re: Bottled it

By Suom Ynona17/3 19:02Sun Mar 17 19:02:30 2024In response to Re: Bottled itTop of thread

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If shares haven't been transferred yet I guess there is hope. Let's hope that KBH or someone else can beat the chief idiot and his acolytes to the shares.

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Re: Bottled it

By Count Scarlioni17/3 19:36Sun Mar 17 19:36:25 2024In response to Re: Bottled itTop of thread

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Surely they have to be asking themselves if this is worth the bother. Reviving Kingstonian takes Christ like powers of resurrection. Whoever has a go could well be on a complete hiding to nothing. The task seems to have been beyond Anderson who is a shrewd businessman. I would call on the shareholders to transfer their shares - which are surely worthless - to a Supporters Trust so that the supporters can take matters in hand.

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By Suom Ynona17/3 19:46Sun Mar 17 19:46:07 2024In response to Re: Bottled itTop of thread

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You fail to recognise that this isnt about the survival of the football club, but is solely about an idiot's ego.

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Re: Bottled it

By MC19/3 14:55Tue Mar 19 14:55:28 2024In response to Re: Bottled itTop of thread

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I thought the new chairman and board largely came across well at the supporters' meeting a month ago but the lack of communication since has been bizarre.

There was no announcement about who the new board was comprised of. They then fielded questions (reasonably well, in fairness) for an hour or so, and there has still been no announcement about who they are! It's utterly mad.

I've spent the past few weeks telling some other fans "Yeah this new bloke, Steve...something....he seems like he has his head screwed on..." but why would anyone believe me when the club don't even announce the very basic information of who the bloody board are?

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By JamieB (JBreeze)20/3 11:55Wed Mar 20 11:55:01 2024In response to Re: Bottled itTop of thread

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I find it so bizarre companies house hasn't been updated for the supposed changes to the shareholders/directors. It's not something that takes ages to update.

If it wasn't for this forum I wouldn't know about any changes

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By Alastair20/3 19:40Wed Mar 20 19:40:14 2024In response to Re: Bottled itTop of thread

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Talking of Companies House, one interesting fact that is available is that Steve Dormer does not own, or control, Surrey Hire. He’s still involved in the business, but he no longer has a controlling interest.

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By Taimour (WeHateWombles)25/3 18:07Mon Mar 25 18:07:35 2024In response to Re: Bottled itTop of thread

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Where is Ben Flatt?

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By JamieB (JBreeze)20/3 19:43Wed Mar 20 19:43:17 2024In response to Re: Bottled itTop of thread

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Or even further Kingstonian has no persons of significant control ie shareholders with more than 25pc shareholding.

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By Taimour (WeHateWombles)19/3 19:38Tue Mar 19 19:38:09 2024In response to Re: Bottled itTop of thread

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Maybe they're still seeking information on who he is.

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By Senior (BE)19/3 19:04Tue Mar 19 19:04:32 2024In response to Re: Bottled itTop of thread

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Also we are told about NEW signings but, not about who has left!

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