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Statement from the Chairman

By Cardiff Ks (reximus)15/4 21:31Mon Apr 15 21:31:41 2024

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Some words, some promises, some half-truths, some blaming, some threats, some requests.

https://www.kingstonianfc.com/news/statement-from-the-chairman-yioryos-vasilaras

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Re: Statement from the Chairman

By Korky121/4 18:48Sun Apr 21 18:48:43 2024In response to Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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Who wrote the bile the." Chairman." Put out in his statement,he hasn't the ability to write that rubbish,Anderson and Winwright didn't rescue the club,my old guvnor rescued the club they just badgered him with promises of investing more money than he had, aiming the club back to the Conference league,his final game was beating. AFC in the Surrey senior Cup. As for a six figure debt all lies,it was. 13,600 pounds.They made all the promises about the team, the manager ,the. Volunteers and they renaged on every promise,they turned out to be cheats and liars and as with Fenwick yougos needs to be very careful, as for life members ,rewarding ,failure. Very sad a great club raped and looted. By three greedy bastards.

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Re: Statement from the Chairman

By Gerald Petit12/5 17:29Sun May 12 17:29:45 2024In response to Re: Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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Hear ,Hear.

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Re: Statement from the Chairman

By supahoops720/4 14:07Sat Apr 20 14:07:53 2024In response to Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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As no one has asked, how has the current Chairman of
the board become the majority shareholder from being the
minority shareholder of around 5%?.
Have the outgoing directors given away their shares to the
new self-appointed Chairman and director?.

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Re: Statement from the Chairman

By Korky112/5 21:25Sun May 12 21:25:26 2024In response to Re: Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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Hmm they will have yougos on a leash hoping to reap more money should the.occasion arise

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Re: Statement from the Chairman

By OptimisticK16/4 07:38Tue Apr 16 07:38:49 2024In response to Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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Inspirational!

Next season can’t start soon enough.

Edited by OptimisticK at 07:39:09 on 16th April 2024

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Re: Statement from the Chairman

By Liverpoollad19/4 22:25Fri Apr 19 22:25:42 2024In response to Re: Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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A chairman who threatens bans for abusive behaviour hmmm he needs to think about the amount of abusive language he has dished out over the years especially to dowson those of us that were there akways heard it the mans an idiot who has a mouth thats bigger than the rest of him even before he was on the board he was a problem i 1st saw ks play 50 years ago sad to say this club has been ruined byva board who simply dont care

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Re: Statement from the Chairman

By Kingting (Ksuals)20/4 07:44Sat Apr 20 07:44:19 2024In response to Re: Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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Maybe there is a board before the current and recent members who share some of the blame for Ks self inflicted woes?

Ksuals

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Re: Statement from the Chairman

By jon tolley16/4 06:34Tue Apr 16 06:34:48 2024In response to Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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my immediate responses:

1. We need someone who knows about comms. or even just a proof reader.

2. If this money is "100% enough" to "build a ground" - I would love to see examples of what that amount of money can deliver. Because I just can't believe it so.

3. The reason the Chessington plan fell through was because it's against London planning policy. Yes, it was widely thought policy might change, and green belt might be more available, but when Sadiq reaffirmed Labour's position those ideas had to be shelved. Since then the lack of communications with council is directly down to the club. I was a councillor for most of that period. Kingstonian wasn't on the radar. Without a women's team, without anything proactive, by parroting the lie that you can't fit a football pitch inside an athletics track, and by saying that leaving Kingston was in the club's best interest, there's no reason why the council should have cared or been leading the charge. Taxpayers would be let down for it to have been otherwise. Someone can FOI how many emails there have been from council to representatives of Kingstonian, I'm quite sure. Yes there's conversations now. And that's good, but it's a decade late in starting.

4. The info on whether Wombles money went to playing budget seems to directly contradict what we were told in person on the February meeting.

Edited by jon tolley at 07:41:20 on 16th April 2024
Edited by jon tolley at 08:04:23 on 16th April 2024

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Re: Statement from the Chairman

By SDG (SDG (Ks))16/4 12:31Tue Apr 16 12:31:10 2024In response to Re: Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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Wow, a hell of a lot to unpack here, this would have been much better as a series of individual updates over the last eight weeks.

Some of it is helpful, even encouraging. In particular, having a women's team again will be a real positive for the club. Good on Jamie Street taking this on, an absolute stalwart of the club through good times and bad. I look forward to hearing more about this - in particular, are we expecting the current U18 crop to graduate to become an adult side for us from the following season? And we might need to consider the name as ladies is quite old-fashioned now. But it's a real positive that this is happening, both as the right thing to do and for us to be taken seriously by the Council and other decision-makers in our ground hunt.

The ground update is welcome too, even if it doesn't show masses of progress. It seems like at least one of the previous sites identified last year has fallen through now but it's good that we're still looking at multiple sites in parallel. Let's hope the out-of-borough one is in a sensible location though - and I'm afraid I share Jon's scepticism about the financial side of things.

A hint at cheaper ticket prices is welcome. And seeing some actual figures for the money we've spent is positive compared to how things were before. It's also pretty sobering though about how far short we are of a competitive budget for this league and it makes you fear for next season in the one below.

A few things really spoil the update though.

Chiefly, the threat to ban supporters. It felt like after a well-received fans' forum eight weeks ago there was a window where relations between the board and the supporters could have improved. We have a staggering number of volunteer vacancies all of a sudden, which is really worrying. With club secretary, comms officer and physio all being particularly important ones. But these sort of threats to ban people are hardly going to encourage the fans to step forward at a time when it seems like there's a desperate need to get more volunteers.

The explanation of the AFC money is just dancing on the head of a pin and makes little sense. So we didn't spend it on the playing budget but on a bunch of other expenses that would otherwise have come out of the playing budget. It's effectively the same thing and in my opinion it's a massive portion of our nest-egg badly squandered over the last seven years.

Public criticism of the Council is hardly going to do us any favours either. And it's frankly bizarre when Chessington coming to nothing was more down to the Mayor than the RBK; and for years we were never even asking the Council for anything. When the plan was a permanent groundshare with Casuals perhaps we didn't need to. Whatever party the Council is, the problem will remain that there are very few sites suitable for a football ground.

About all I have time to say right now. But it feels like a real missed opportunity here, with some helpful updates being drowned out by the negatives.

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Re: Statement from the Chairman

By Count Scarlioni16/4 13:26Tue Apr 16 13:26:55 2024In response to Re: Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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Presumably it is only the toxic fans who need be concerned about a ban.

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Re: Statement from the Chairman

By SDG (SDG (Ks))16/4 18:23Tue Apr 16 18:23:18 2024In response to Re: Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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The statement doesn't use the word 'toxic' though. It does talk about 'negativity' and a 'negative atmosphere' which is highly subjective, and whether intentionally or through poor wording has been widely interpreted as an attempt to silence criticism.

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Re: Statement from the Chairman

By Alastair16/4 15:05Tue Apr 16 15:05:29 2024In response to Re: Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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Our most toxic fans are the ones who are hell-bent on killing this great football club.

Sadly they are far too toxic to actually realise this. Which is a very sad irony.

I remember one of our now board members explaining to me at length last season that, as long as him and his mates “had a team to watch playing in red and white on a Saturday”, he couldn’t care less about anything else.

Now that’s toxic.

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Re: Statement from the Chairman

By Filipo16/4 15:35Tue Apr 16 15:35:10 2024In response to Re: Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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I remember one of our now board members explaining to me at length last season that, as long as him and his mates “had a team to watch playing in red and white on a Saturday”, he couldn’t care less about anything else.

Now that’s toxic.


I remember this too. He couldn’t give a fuck about the future generations of ks fans.

People like this are killing the club

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Re: Statement from the Chairman

By Liverpoollad19/4 22:27Fri Apr 19 22:27:10 2024In response to Re: Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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Agree 100% with that

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Re: Statement from the Chairman

By Cardiff Ks (reximus)16/4 13:46Tue Apr 16 13:46:16 2024In response to Re: Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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Presumably it is only the toxic fans who need be concerned about a ban.

As Secretary of the Supporters Club, democratically elected to represent ALL supporters - and specifically on a mandate to "hold the Directors to account" - I am concerned that the Chairman would threaten bans against any supporters for the "crime" of dissent.

Lewes FC explicitly praised our travelling supporters for "providing some in-game entertainment" on Saturday. The Ks Chairman (if he'd been at the game) might have viewed the events very differently. It seems grossly unfair that a mere "custodian of the club" (to quote Mark Anderson) could act so arbitrarily and summarily.

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Re: Statement from the Chairman

By Korky117/4 11:25Wed Apr 17 11:25:01 2024In response to Re: Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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Following the chairman's statement containing a lot of bile,Anderson and Winwright confirmed as liars from day one and still confirming today that position.They did not have a six figure debt on takeover they had a five figure debt 13,860 pounds and did what was legal transferred 80,000 pounds of old debt between companies,and regarding the girls team KS youth had an agreement until 2030 at Dinton fields where they can play for free generating their own income.More to come later.

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Re: Statement from the Chairman

By Kingting (Ksuals)17/4 12:27Wed Apr 17 12:27:55 2024In response to Re: Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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What companies

Ksuals

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Re: Statement from the Chairman

By Korky119/4 14:14Fri Apr 19 14:14:23 2024In response to Re: Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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They both had companies carrying debt the coaches for Anderson Travel, the building for Winwright,it's a good way to relieve yourself of a debt burden,Anderson in a recent interview gave a load of rubbish about lockdown,the government covered 80 percent of exes during that time,he was sitting pretty.

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Re: Statement from the Chairman

By Kingting (Ksuals)19/4 15:02Fri Apr 19 15:02:41 2024In response to Re: Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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Sorry Korky1 are you saying they transferred debt from their business to KFC?.
You probably made that clear and it's me that is missing the obvious.

Ksuals

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Re: Statement from the Chairman

By Korky121/4 18:52Sun Apr 21 18:52:23 2024In response to Re: Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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It's not the first time you have missed the obvious my friend.

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Re: Statement from the Chairman

By Mike (KsMikey)16/4 15:25Tue Apr 16 15:25:55 2024In response to Re: Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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… “hold directors to account”

Which is why the Supporters’ Club’s constitution needs changing

Why are directors allowed to be in the club, and presumably senior staff of the club (eg club Secretary)

It’s a big conflict of interests there. You can’t represent fans if the board has a club director on it.

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By Mike (KsMikey)16/4 12:02Tue Apr 16 12:02:18 2024In response to Re: Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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1) agree. Not sure how long the one-sentence opening paragraph is but it’s horrendous. I feel for Robert here because as Comms honcho it’s officially in his name. And yes it’s tempting to offer to help with Comms next season but I won’t under this regime - how could i defend it honestly

3) not a good look to big up the current council regime’s long-term opponents. It’s politically naive thst statement- and why I don’t trust the current crop of councillors to deliver anything decent at least try to be nice and try to work with them. The borough could do with a community sports facility, as well as a swimming pool, and delivering one would look good for the current regime but Ks have to sell it to the council. Offer them something for a little goodwill etc. this statement doesn’t

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Re: Statement from the Chairman

By andycowl16/4 10:21Tue Apr 16 10:21:56 2024In response to Re: Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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In amongst this all this sad mess and managed decline, one thing keeps nagging away at me.

The chairman's occupation recorded at Companies House - 'Marketing Manager'.

Seriously, you could not make it up.

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Re: Statement from the Chairman

By Korky112/5 21:20Sun May 12 21:20:09 2024In response to Re: Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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Your correct., a laugh a minute.

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Re: Statement from the Chairman

By Southampton K16/4 18:08Tue Apr 16 18:08:15 2024In response to Re: Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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indeed, he was actually given his spot on the board as Marketing Director all those years ago to improve a lack of said things as none had been done.

Can't say I ever saw any upturn in fortunes.


May also be a coincidence but that probably about last time Banquet was a sponsor :-(


Paul
Southampton K

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Re: Statement from the Chairman

By Suom Ynona16/4 10:39Tue Apr 16 10:39:28 2024In response to Re: Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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Marketing manager hahaha. Delusional on his part. How much marketing /advertising did we all see around the borough when he took up this role at K's prior to joining the board?

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Re: Statement from the Chairman

By PlayupKs15/4 22:31Mon Apr 15 22:31:18 2024In response to Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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Fairs, fair… this statement is full clarity on why there’s a lack of communication coming out of the club. Our chairman has no idea how to communicate with humans.

Probably should have run this statement past one of our Uni Communication Students volunteers to check. They would be able to tell you this is a disaster example in crisis management comms.

When you have 150 regular fans attending (at best) threatening to ban even a small proportion of these for ‘negativity’ is a bold move. This coupled with replacing the Fans Player of the Year award with Directors Player of the Year (and have the balls to then implore fans to attend these awards) makes me genuinely think their ultimate goal maybe to run a football club without fans…

8 weeks ago: Wimbledon money was used for playing budget

Now: Wimbledon money was not used for playing budget! Stop asking questions, we won’t speak of it again. Why won't you support the board? It’s a great mystery to me hahahaha

Edited by PlayupKs at 22:36:50 on 15th April 2024

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By Kingstonforever23 (Kingstontillidie85)15/4 22:24Mon Apr 15 22:24:16 2024In response to Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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How can our chairman threaten our fans with long-term bands for their opinions on social media and in the ground one way of scaring us say we won’t have no fans left at this rate will be banned. What a joke. I was prepared to give them a chance, but now after this no way out of the depth

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Re: Statement from the Chairman

By Gary (gekins)15/4 22:10Mon Apr 15 22:10:53 2024In response to Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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Various volunteer roles need filling this forthcoming season around our club, such as:

• Club Media and Communications Officer


No shit Sherlock

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Re: Statement from the Chairman

By Cardiff Ks (reximus)15/4 23:13Mon Apr 15 23:13:35 2024In response to Re: Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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"Various volunteer roles need filling this forthcoming season around our club, such as:

• Club Media and Communications Officer"

I'm happy to offer.

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Re: Statement from the Chairman

By Count Scarlioni15/4 21:58Mon Apr 15 21:58:25 2024In response to Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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He doesn’t sound too bothered about being kicked out of the supporters club … sounds like he is going to do the same to some of you!

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Re: Statement from the Chairman

By JM15/4 21:46Mon Apr 15 21:46:32 2024In response to Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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"Finally, on this subject – I would like to urge all Ks’ supporters to get behind Stephen, Jim, Ben and myself in a positive manner – we do not need the negativity that has come from a small minority of “supporters”, who know who they are, and, simply put, it will not be tolerated. We will not hesitate to impose long-term bans on any individuals who individually or collectively continuously create a negative atmosphere at our matches and abuse Club Directors online or otherwise – we need everyone to pull together and help us to make our club great again. Simply put – OUR CLUB NEEDS YOU!"

This sounds interesting...

Edited by JM at 21:47:23 on 15th April 2024

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Re: Statement from the Chairman

By Paddy (Paddy1)16/4 09:26Tue Apr 16 09:26:16 2024In response to Re: Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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He shits in our hands, tells us to clap & then threatens anyone for asking why everything in the vicinity is covered in shit?

What in the pound shop authoritarianism is this?!

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Re: Statement from the Chairman

By Korky116/4 09:24Tue Apr 16 09:24:00 2024In response to Re: Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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The Nazi party alive and well ?.

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By Paddy (Paddy1)16/4 09:29Tue Apr 16 09:29:18 2024In response to Re: Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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Feels more like he's going for 'Dear Leader' vibes rather than 'Der Fuhrer' to be fair.

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By BedfordshireK (BedfordshireK)15/4 22:00Mon Apr 15 22:00:28 2024In response to Re: Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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"Finally, on this subject – I would like to urge all Ks’ supporters to get behind Stephen, Jim, Ben and myself in a positive manner – we do not need the negativity that has come from a small minority of “supporters”, who know who they are, and, simply put, it will not be tolerated. We will not hesitate to impose long-term bans on any individuals who individually or collectively continuously create a negative atmosphere at our matches and abuse Club Directors online or otherwise – we need everyone to pull together and help us to make our club great again. Simply put – OUR CLUB NEEDS YOU!"


Sack the board.

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Re: Statement from the Chairman

By JamieB (JBreeze)15/4 21:48Mon Apr 15 21:48:46 2024In response to Re: Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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I would like to urge all Ks’ supporters to get behind Stephen, Jim, Ben and myself in a positive manner

Gotta earn it first surely, also criticism of the board and calling them out this season has been completely warranted at times.

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By MC15/4 21:43Mon Apr 15 21:43:50 2024In response to Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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Just don't know how you can ignore the supporters for so long, offer no communication, threaten to ban some, then say 'we need you!' and ask for volunteers to come forward for almost every role at the club (including physio! Can we please make sure that we actually pay our physio please, you can't pay your sub left-back but not your physio).

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Re: Statement from the Chairman

By BedfordshireK (BedfordshireK)15/4 21:48Mon Apr 15 21:48:07 2024In response to Re: Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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A lot to unpack there, but to claim that no Womble money was spent on playing budget, but instead went on:

training ground facilities, insurance policies, coach travel, FA and League fees, player registrations and fines, all required kit and playing equipment, accountants’ fees, payroll admin fees, auditors’ fees, professional fees, physio supplies, match day security, storage containers, photography, bank charges, Under 18s team costs, etc.

...is, to quote one Ks fan, the kind of lie you tell a child.

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Re: Statement from the Chairman

By irishk15/4 22:34Mon Apr 15 22:34:11 2024In response to Re: Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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And openly contradicts what HE told us in February.

Utterly speechless reading all this.

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Re: Statement from the Chairman

By Korky116/4 09:33Tue Apr 16 09:33:39 2024In response to Re: Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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He probably had to wait too be coached by Anderson and Fenwick before he could answer.

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Re: Statement from the Chairman

By Filipo15/4 22:02Mon Apr 15 22:02:54 2024In response to Re: Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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It would be some achievement if we were the first football club in history to ban all it’s supporters!

Who’s up for it?

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Re: Statement from the Chairman

By Chas15/4 23:00Mon Apr 15 23:00:06 2024In response to Re: Statement from the Chairman Top of thread

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Won't be buying a season ticket ever again while this useless shit is on the board.

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