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Chatham 'Yoof (an update)
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A number of Chatham "supporters" were sent to bed without their tea. Others had their pocket money stopped for a week.
Read the full report at https://comeonuks.wordpress.com/2024/04/27/chatham-yoof-2/
Many thanks to John McCormack, Ks Safety Officer.
Kingstonian Supporters Club
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Thank you all, nice to see the supporters club looking out for the fans 👏👏👏
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Nice work and fair play to Chatham for acting so swiftly and thoroughly.
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Is it just me who thinks this seems a little OTT?
There was clearly one young lad who launched a bottle towards Ks fans (well I think that's what he was aiming for!) and deserves a ban, but the rest of them were surely involved in a bit of a windup more than anything else.
Perhaps not the best behaviour but I suspect we're all guilty of that in a football ground. Bans until the end of the season / conversations with their headteachers seem hugely disproportionate to me.
One of the things I've always liked about Ks is the banter from the terrace and our excellent ability to wind up other fans. We really are the best in non-league at that. We're not the best in non-league at much else.
I'm sure the relevant individuals involved have done similar things at other games so maybe this was for 'persistent fouling', to use a football expression, but unless they go completely over the line (as the bottle thrower clearly did) I'm a bit reluctant to see teenagers banned from football games simply for being, well, slightly misbehaved teenagers.
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Bans seem over the top and possibly counter productive as potentially worn as a badge of honour by those involved, but as they're kids I don't see that speaking to teachers is unreasonable just to tell them to cool it down a bit and have a think about where the line is. They're kids, they're testing boundaries, I get it but it's as much for their wellbeing as anything. Our fans did exactly the right thing at the time in laughing it off but that's not a given with every fan and every fanbase and situations like this can easily escalate and nobody wants that.
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I'm a bit reluctant to see teenagers banned from football games simply for being, well, slightly misbehaved teenagers.
I'm with Rex on this, whilst I understand what you're getting at, think this does need action.
If left unchecked, what do they become in 5 yrs time?
Don't need any more Boreham scenarios in non-league.
Paul
Southampton K
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Yeah, I agree.
Actually find it a bit embarrassing that a few of our fans were quite so wound up by it.
Those kids were obviously idiots and the situation maybe needed to be defused but once they had been led away by that one steward it was surely no longer worth fretting over.
We won't be playing them again until those lads are about 40 so felt like one we could just let go...
edit: also, sack the board
Edited by JM at 17:11:40 on 29th April 2024
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Respectfully, I disagree.
There's a difference between banter and actually goading for a fight. And some of those same "slightly misbehaved teenagers" also tried to pick a fight in the car park after the game.
I think a word with their parents and/or teachers is exactly right. I think a ban to the end of the season (when there's only a few games left - so not a "lengthy ban") is again exactly right.
Part of the appeal of no-league football is the absence of any real crowd trouble. The kids came too close to over-stepping the mark, IMHO.
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A word with their parents? Fine!
Bans? Seems a little OTT (aside from the bottle thrower)
Involving their school? This seems bizarre to me. Maybe things have changed since my day, but unless they are doing something that is criminal, or doing something out of order while wearing the school uniform, I don't think it has anything to do with their school.
The steward defused the situation. The bottle thrower clearly deserves a ban for the remainder of the season.
The rest of them? I wouldn't invite them around for tea, but any further action seems mad.
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100% agreed. All this talk of bans and investigations is awful.
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I think a robust response is a good thing. Basically there are consequences for doing the things that happened. Hopefully they are (harsh) lesson learned and won't do it again.
How many times do people moan about action not being taken about anti social and aggressive behaviour when it happens?
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