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By Filipo27/4 18:24Sat Apr 27 18:24:10 2024

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Do long time loyal supporters who went to watch their relegated team today deserve to be shouted at by a drunken board member?

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By Korky120/6 13:45Thu Jun 20 13:45:18 2024In response to QuestionTop of thread

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Is there an update on the two supporters who were stupidly banned ?

Edited by Korky1 at 13:45:44 on 20th June 2024

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By Gary (gekins)27/4 21:31Sat Apr 27 21:31:22 2024In response to QuestionTop of thread

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It never occurred to me that he was drunk. Just out of his depth.

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By Ks Supporters Club (K Supporters Club)28/4 20:50Sun Apr 28 20:50:46 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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This is utterly astonishing.

Just recently, the Supporters Club had to praise the patience and wisdom of our supporters, not responding to childish goading from a group of Chatham fans. Now our supporters have had to put up with similar behaviour from a Director and Patron of our own Club.

The Supporters Club has received a number of complaints about yesterday's incident, and will be taking further action.

Kingstonian Supporters Club

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Re: Question

By Damo28/4 21:33Sun Apr 28 21:33:12 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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Who the hell put a thumbs down on a post that said the SC committee will be “taking further action” after an incident where one of their members got drunkenly abused by a member of the board?
Backing our supporters is what the SC committee are supposed to be doing and we’re elected on that basis

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Re: Question

By Gary (gekins)28/4 21:44Sun Apr 28 21:44:56 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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I didn’t give a thumbs down but I disagree with the SC doing anything. I had a lengthy conversation with a member of the board, we both made our points heatedly and with passion. We disagreed. We don’t like each other. That’s life. There is absolutely no way that I want the SC to do anything about it.

If it’s a different incident that I know nothing about then fair enough. But if it was my discussion with that board member, do me a favour and leave it alone.

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Re: Question

By Damo29/4 13:21Mon Apr 29 13:21:30 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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Your wishes should be completely respected by the SC committee

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Re: Question

By John Bangs27/4 21:11Sat Apr 27 21:11:55 2024In response to QuestionTop of thread

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If you put it like that, clearly not.

Another way of looking at it is that if someone is sworn and cursed at four weeks on end and eventually cracks and shout back ……….

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Re: Question

By Damo28/4 09:25Sun Apr 28 09:25:17 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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John, that’s appalling. A member of the board has drunkenly abused a long standing supporter and you go straight in and back the board member. You’re on the SC committee and your role is to represent the supporters.
Rememberer, the supporter didn’t seek out the board member but the board member sought out the supporters and became confrontational.

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Re: Question

By FOLEY28/4 09:44Sun Apr 28 09:44:45 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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Who was the drunken board member please Damo ?

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Re: Question

By Mike (KsMikey)28/4 09:50Sun Apr 28 09:50:23 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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I don’t think it’s appropriate to publish names here. Maybe ask privately

Obviously if the person was sober than that person’s intervention with two other people backing them up is even worse. A straight abuse of power with no mitigating circumstances

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By FOLEY28/4 09:51Sun Apr 28 09:51:18 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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Fair point

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By BUTLER$ Naked Butler (BUTLER$ Naked Butler)27/4 23:21Sat Apr 27 23:21:51 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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If you put it like that, clearly not.

Another way of looking at it is that if someone is sworn and cursed at four weeks on end and eventually cracks and shout back ……….


Oh spare us the nonsense Bang$, You’re a wolf in sheeps clothing.

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By BUTLER$ Naked Butler (BUTLER$ Naked Butler)5/6 11:27Wed Jun 5 11:27:45 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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If you put it like that, clearly not.

Another way of looking at it is that if someone is sworn and cursed at four weeks on end and eventually cracks and shout back ……….


Oh spare us the nonsense Bang$, You’re a wolf in sheeps clothing.


…………………………………..
case clo$ed.

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Re: Question

By Filipo28/4 07:32Sun Apr 28 07:32:21 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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John as always on the side of the board and not the supporters.

Let’s not forget why we had to have an overhaul of the Supporters club!

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Re: Question

By Mike (KsMikey)27/4 21:29Sat Apr 27 21:29:10 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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Sorry

Do you nor believe this?

Astonishing from someone who as a representative of the fans before on the supporters’ committee

Board members hold the balance of power. If thry find something offensive then they can take moves to warn or sanction individuals. Misusing this imbalance is not acceptable, especially when they initiate it

I’d be tempted to be uncouth to you but I won’t, but frankly you need to rethink what you’ve just written

(Edit - corrected typo)

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Re: Question

By JamieB (JBreeze)27/4 23:10Sat Apr 27 23:10:11 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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Don't worry Mike

I'm sure a thread will be bumped up below somewhere that will state how the director gave money to charity that one time weeks ago to excuse his part in the destruction of the club that's latest decades

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Re: Question

By Korky129/4 13:33Mon Apr 29 13:33:18 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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None of them can escape that don't matter how much they give to charity ," the destruction of the club" yourgos included.

Edited by Korky1 at 18:42:13 on 17th June 2024

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Re: Question

By JamieB (JBreeze)27/4 21:19Sat Apr 27 21:19:20 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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The board have already lied to the fans within those four weeks (AFCW money used for budget then countered with that ludicrous statement). These arent white lies either, lying to us as if we are idiots or as one person said talked to us as if we were children. One board member called the SC liars on here about a rearranged q+a but was found out in the end on that one.

Respect is a two way street. Disrespect the fans then expect it back, the difference being the club NEEDS the fans. Owners come and go

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Re: Question

By Count Scarlioni28/4 07:34Sun Apr 28 07:34:48 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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Fans come and go too judging from our attendances.

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Re: Question

By JamieB (JBreeze)28/4 08:04Sun Apr 28 08:04:09 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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Kingstonian moved away from the fans not the other way around. If they came home it would be a different story

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Re: Question

By Count Scarlioni28/4 08:27Sun Apr 28 08:27:30 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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We have lost a whole generation of fans now. If I was young and lived in Kingston why would I go to watch Kingstonian play in Raynes Park let alone Mitcham?

It is a real tragedy. Non league clubs have no right to existence - look at Staines Town. In many ways their extinction has relevance for Ks. Put out of business by a cruel owner, the fans who wanted to started to follow Staines & Lammas (Middlesex) but that club now groundshares ar Abbey Rangers so there is no football team in Staines. Brentford got a five year lease on Wheatsheaf Park but there is no accommodation then for Staines & Lammas. Someone tried to form a Staines Town AFC but there was not enough support or money.

Kingstonian is only still there because of the blood money. Whilst I can understand that it was Khosla and AFC Scumbledon who removed our ground, why have the directors of the club made so little progress on a new one in seven years? And given seven years have elapsed, what reason is there to think this new board will do any better? In any event even if by some chance they do find a site, surely we must be the same time again from playing there.

Everything depends on developing a new ground - which seems improbable - or finding a sensible long term groundshare. Perhaps Raynes Park is it, it is after all only three miles from Kingsmeadowa and the 131 runs close by.

The other point is the football. Teams need to be successful at step four to generate interest. Walton & Hersham came back from step six and Chertsey Town have been promoted. W&H had a crowd of 651 yesterday literally a tenfold increase from pre-covid seasons. However I can only see Ks struggling at step four, it is a competitive hard fought league. I can’t see myself flocking to Raynes Park for a lower mid table clash with Hanworth Villa or just as likely a relegation decider.

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Re: Question

By Korky17/6 22:07Fri Jun 7 22:07:52 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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Cmon count lay the blame where it is.Anderson Winwright and Fenwick,removed the club from Kingsmeadow not AFC or Khosla ,they sold the balance of the playing arrangement back to AFC for a 150,000 pounds payout when they could have negotiated the seven years left to play alongside Chelsea.AFC offered to speak for KS ,the directors. ,preferred the money.

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Re: Question

By Kingting (Ksuals)8/6 07:41Sat Jun 8 07:41:53 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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Korky1,who owned Ks when the tenancy agreement that had 7 years left was agreed?

Ksuals

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Re: Question

By Korky111/6 09:56Tue Jun 11 09:56:46 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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Kinting,
Mr Khosla agreed a twenty year playing arrangement for KS with AFC ,KS paid for nothing other than rent too the council.AFC paid for everything including bar staff on oir match days it was the strongest ground share agreement in football,KS had s great chance to create
something as my old boss Jim Cochrane demonstrated with the team that was produced during his tenure.The 7 years left on the 20 years was that which Anderson + co traded for 150,000 pounds when they could have played alongside Chelsea but without the money. If anybody knows Colin Dedmans t/no speak to him he knows more than any of us.

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Re: Question

By Kingting (Ksuals)11/6 12:52Tue Jun 11 12:52:41 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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Korky1 there was a point put out at the time that the land needed for AFCW to increase seating to meet EFL rules was owned by the council,who in exchange for the land got an agreement for Ks to be tenants. Your post would imply this wasn't so.
What I find strange is that as AFCW aim all along was a return to Merton they didn't insert break clauses in the tenancy agreement.
How does the £150,000 equate to the report larger sum given to Ks

Ksuals

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Re: Question

By Korky111/6 13:30Tue Jun 11 13:30:03 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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The land you refer too was a two MTR perimeter leasehold by the council and was sold to A F C for that very purpose,the agreement was drafted by Khosla without break clauses and was accepted by AFC.The 150,000 pounds was for the surrender of the balance of the playing arrangement(7) years and as well as the purported million .The council had no hand in KS staying at Kingsmeadow it was Khosla who made sure KS stayed.

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By Kingting (Ksuals)11/6 15:54Tue Jun 11 15:54:20 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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Thanks for the info Korky1.
Do you think if the board had in place a viable alternative ground option going forward,leaving 7 years early would not have been an issue?

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By Korky121/6 15:42Fri Jun 21 15:42:42 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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It was always an issue, s million pounds is nothing a ground costs 20-30 million ask AFC ,they had little chance of seeing that through it's why the took the money,the real test would have been to stay and try to win over Chelsea,if t?hey wanted the ground badly enough they would have to honour the agreement KS had with AFC,legal and binding.

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By Kingting (Ksuals)21/6 16:36Fri Jun 21 16:36:40 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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Korky didn't you mention that there was only 7 years left on Ks tenancy? Maybe CFC would extended maybe not,taking the payment for early exit in itself was perhaps not the biggest issue but the absence of a viable ongoing new/ground share.
I spoke to some who voted against Ks ground sharing with them on a permanent basis due to arrogance on the part of Ks in the negotiations feeling it was in their words akin to a ' hostile take over'.

Ksuals

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By Korky124/6 02:10Mon Jun 24 02:10:07 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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The prime example being C/Casuals ,KS wanted to take over the head lease in exchange for investing the million in the ground , the council told KS speak to C/C not us,KS booted out.

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By SDG (SDG (Ks))21/6 21:48Fri Jun 21 21:48:14 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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I spoke to some who voted against Ks ground sharing with them on a permanent basis due to arrogance on the part of Ks in the negotiations feeling it was in their words akin to a ' hostile take over'.

Is this about Corinthian-Casuals? Funny how the board defenders were determined to blame it all on the fans when relations broke down with them.

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By Korky18/7 17:27Mon Jul 8 17:27:07 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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I thought the fans got on quite well, everybody knew each other really. It was the directors Anderson Fenwick and Winwright who fucked it up, not the fans.

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By Kingting (Ksuals)22/6 06:18Sat Jun 22 06:18:35 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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No not Casuals, Chessington and Hook .
I know nothing about Casuals situation so leave it to you to find it funny

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By Lesmundo29/6 20:47Sat Jun 29 20:47:17 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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It would take a lot more than a million to sort that place out.

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By Korky111/6 16:05Tue Jun 11 16:05:36 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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Well for me it will always be an issue,when this club was.passed to those directors it was on the.proviso that they kept their promises and one was to never leave the ground while we.had tenure,Jim admits he got them wrong,they should have stayed and built a rapport with Chelsea who knows where it may have led,but too sell the club out for money ,its too much.Nice to talk.

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By BedfordshireK (BedfordshireK)11/6 16:34Tue Jun 11 16:34:21 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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Always amazed how much your old boss has shared with you, Korky!

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By Korky111/6 17:14Tue Jun 11 17:14:42 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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There is plenty more ,we are KS through and through ,we. have been supporting since we we re 10 if he replies as himself we don't want him accused of sour grapes, I have been in it with Jim Colin Dedman and Bill. McNally since day one, ask me another. I don't know what you think but it's how we have lived ,ho nest and friendly and helpful, how the directors promised they.would.be before they.renaged on everyhing and whatever you might be thinking ,openess truthfulness and respect for everybody else got the club back up and running,for them to lie their way in and rape it.

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By Korky129/4 13:39Mon Apr 29 13:39:20 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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Well said count, don't forget the board
rejected the offer from AFC to renegotiate the last 7 years of our tenure with them and Chelsea in favour of an extra 150,000 pounds payout.

Edited by Korky1 at 05:34:21 on 23rd June 2024

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By FOLEY27/4 19:32Sat Apr 27 19:32:36 2024In response to QuestionTop of thread

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Who phil that is not on ?

Or can it not be said online mate

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By JamieB (JBreeze)27/4 20:36Sat Apr 27 20:36:57 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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You have a one in four chance of guessing it correctly 😂

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By Cardiff Ks (reximus)27/4 18:40Sat Apr 27 18:40:15 2024In response to QuestionTop of thread

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"Finally, on this subject – I would like to urge all Ks’ Board Members to get behind the supporters in a positive manner – we do not need the negativity that has come from a small minority of “Board Members”, who know who they are, and, simply put, it will not be tolerated. We will not hesitate to impose long-term bans on any Board Members who individually or collectively continuously create a negative atmosphere at our matches and abuse Supporters online or otherwise – we need everyone to pull together and help us to make our club great again. Simply put – OUR CLUB NEEDS YOU!"

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By Mike (KsMikey)27/4 20:28Sat Apr 27 20:28:56 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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I hope this is taken further

It’s unacceptable and abuse of power as well as deliberate provocation

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By JamieB (JBreeze)27/4 20:35Sat Apr 27 20:35:25 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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Problem is the current board haven't shown any care towards the fans and their first step as the new board (with the statement) was essentially telling us to not ask anymore questions or be banned.

They also have shown twice now that they won't respond to the SC.

Both the ban of a board member and the survey results emails were ignored by the SC

The survey results the board should be thanking the SC for doing and actively working on the findings

Does make you wonder how serious they take the fans of this club

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By Mike (KsMikey)27/4 21:24Sat Apr 27 21:24:48 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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Makes you wonder why someone who has complained about the “industrial language” from some fans, on this forum,can then be there and allow someone to misuse their position in such a way. It kinda the thing that may drive people from not going to a match

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Re: Question

By Damo28/4 09:31Sun Apr 28 09:31:34 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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Because people do mad things when they’ve been on the piss all day

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Re: Question

By JM27/4 18:38Sat Apr 27 18:38:44 2024In response to QuestionTop of thread

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I hope this didn't create a negative atmosphere.

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Re: Question

By jon tolley27/4 19:05Sat Apr 27 19:05:34 2024In response to Re: QuestionTop of thread

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I wasn’t there today.

What happened?

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