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Social Media Feedback

By John Bangs14/5 23:09Tue May 14 23:09:49 2024

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https://www.kingstonianfc.com/news/social-media-feedback

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By JamieB (JBreeze)18/5 22:05Sat May 18 22:05:14 2024In response to Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

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The news article has gone but still no public apology from the club

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By PlayupKs15/5 17:22Wed May 15 17:22:01 2024In response to Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

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Just to confirm what a communications own-goal this is…

Social media expert/entrepreneur and fellow South Central director of Farnham Town Harry Hugo has highlighted how stunned he is at how wrong Kingstonian’s Twitter have got this… sadly as the clubs fans it’s not stunning or unsurprising.

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By Ks Supporters Club (K Supporters Club)15/5 13:27Wed May 15 13:27:30 2024In response to Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

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In response to suggestions made in this thread and elsewhere, the Supporters Club would be pleased to mediate in this dispute and see if a solution can be achieved.

I know Jamie doesn't use this forum, so I will ask him directly. Please can all other interested parties let me know by reply, or email me at the address below? Many thanks.

Rex, Secretary
secretary@kingstoniansupportersclub.com

Kingstonian Supporters Club

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By Alastair16/5 07:38Thu May 16 07:38:39 2024In response to Re: Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

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Hi Rex

Thanks. I’m honestly not that bothered about the block tbh - it just shows up the decision makers at the club for who they really are.

But I am extremely, genuinely, bothered about the strong insinuation, made repeatedly on a public forum, that I have been abusive and/or threatening and/or even sent intimidating private messages. That is an outright lie and an appalling stain on my character. And because of the block, I don’t even have the right of reply.

I expect as a minimum a clarification from the Kingstonian FC Twitter on this, and I’d appreciate a personal apology from the person or people who have done this.

Thanks,
Alastair

Edited by Alastair at 07:39:21 on 16th May 2024

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Re: Social Media Feedback

By Damo16/5 07:44Thu May 16 07:44:25 2024In response to Re: Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

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I would like to know which member of the board made this decision or was this decision made by Bangs?

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By Mike (KsMikey)16/5 08:12Thu May 16 08:12:17 2024In response to Re: Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

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The responses on Twitter to a request for clarification haven’t been very good. However it’s good Jon is asking them

Personalising a corporate account is not good either: maybe John (B) needs to advise the other B that it’s a corporate account. I’ve listed a few suggestions elsewhere on socials about running the account- but I can see nowhere where any of the blocks are justified; and I’ve been called a lot worse before without blocking. If they’re that bad, complain to Twitter- they do block accounts (and I’ve had a decent record of getting accounts suspended/banned)

If the decisions are being made by the one person that now runs the account- it’s not good. He’s new and should be discussing this with his line manager, ie whoever appointed him. It’s just another PR fail after the others this year, and to be fair the others were taken at board level

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By Damo16/5 08:22Thu May 16 08:22:26 2024In response to Re: Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

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Exactly right in everything you’ve said there.

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By irishk16/5 08:26Thu May 16 08:26:25 2024In response to Re: Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

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K's tweeting in the first person is weird.

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By BedfordshireK (BedfordshireK)16/5 10:05Thu May 16 10:05:20 2024In response to Re: Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

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Give it a couple of years and it'll make perfect sense when we've only got one fan left

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By Damo16/5 10:13Thu May 16 10:13:42 2024In response to Re: Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

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There’ll be more than one. You’ll have:
Acton
Foley
Bangs
Bangs the second
Mrs Yioryos, who still won’t be representing the fans who she should be representing as her role on the SC committee
Jim Page’s pre game drinking mates

And, for the big games, we may still be blessed with a cameo from Rosey.

Count Scarlioni won’t be there,hasn’t been there for years, but will be sticking up for the board online.

As I say, more than one fan

Edited by Damo at 10:13:51 on 16th May 2024

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By JamieB (JBreeze)15/5 21:51Wed May 15 21:51:20 2024In response to Re: Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

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It was implied on twitter today via the official account that the SC have been in talks with the club regarding this.

Has this been the case and have the club realised how much they shot themselves in the foot with this decision?

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By OptimisticK15/5 11:12Wed May 15 11:12:45 2024In response to Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

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Good to hear that the messages are being sent to Elon Musk’s team of independent reviewers. Let’s leave this to the professionals.

If fans are breaking the tweet rules lock them out.

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Re: Social Media Feedback

By MC15/5 10:30Wed May 15 10:30:10 2024In response to Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

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I'm sorry, I don't know the ins and outs of who is running this account now.

But to block a long-time supporter, who spent countless matches live-tweeting what was happening for the benefit of followers, and who spent lots of time last year trying to invest money into the club, is just extraordinary behaviour.

The social media / programme was the one area of the club that was done really well for 5 years or so as we were luckyt to have willing volunteers who did this stuff as their occupations.

I'm not sure why we've gone down this road.

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By Mike (KsMikey)15/5 10:11Wed May 15 10:11:36 2024In response to Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

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As someone who has run a corporate account - I’ve been called a lot of abusive stuff and had “social media” pile ons. Ion,y blocked two people because they were organising a campaign against the account and weren’t following the account.; I also was in the process of handing over the account and didn’t want the other person to take over in a hail of abuse (I had already delayed the process by a fortnight). So I understand the point your son is making

However nothing I’ve seen has been anything approaching this and the two people blocked would never resort to naked threats as suggested, unless they’ve been living a lie for more than a decade. However in making this statement, your son has effectively libelled two people, something alluded to elsewhere.

As for making this decision, and I’m aware of your son’s other corporate accounts that he runs, it doesn’t wash that he would have made this decision so early on without discussion or reference to anyone else. A block of this nature seems to been imposed from elsewhere “pour encourager les autres” and the two least pleasant examples chosen, when seemingly it does t warrant it

Another PR fail. So soon after the preceding one. And not long after the one before that

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By Seeker of Truth and Justice15/5 11:47Wed May 15 11:47:35 2024In response to Re: Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

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“However in making this statement, your son has effectively libelled two people”…

There have been many libellous posts on here about the Directors and Chairman but I guess you think that was OK.

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By Mike (KsMikey)15/5 13:31Wed May 15 13:31:28 2024In response to Re: Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

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Have I said that it’s ok

Libel is still libel, whoever writes it

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By jon tolley15/5 10:59Wed May 15 10:59:29 2024In response to Re: Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

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wait, what
It's John Bangs son running this? what are the chances of that.

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By JamieB (JBreeze)15/5 11:24Wed May 15 11:24:57 2024In response to Re: Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

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The community liaison officer and communications persons doing their best at poor communication and alienating the small community of fans that we have.

From what I gather 2 that I know of was blocked yesterday. So that's 1pc of our fanbase based on attendance (if I'm being generous) and for what? Some incredible claims were made and possibly some grounds of defamation based on what was implied

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By Kingting (Ksuals)15/5 11:05Wed May 15 11:05:17 2024In response to Re: Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

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Due the apparent lack of willing volunteers - very high

Ksuals

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By Count Scarlioni15/5 08:38Wed May 15 08:38:55 2024In response to Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

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That all sounds eminently sensible to me.

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By Alastair15/5 08:44Wed May 15 08:44:30 2024In response to Re: Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

Views: 920

Sure, if it were true.

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By JamieB (JBreeze)15/5 01:05Wed May 15 01:05:51 2024In response to Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

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Read the chairman's last statement regarding negativity

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Re: Social Media Feedback

By JamieB (JBreeze)15/5 00:27Wed May 15 00:27:56 2024In response to Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

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However, we cannot accept threatening language, swearing or abuse of our volunteers and staff.

Ie no one cos there is no one willing to help

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By JamieB (JBreeze)15/5 00:23Wed May 15 00:23:52 2024In response to Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

Views: 1027

Proper Bangs Family mafia tryna gain some control here

Never met this Simon who now controls the communication for KS who is so much of a pussy that will block a loyal fan trying to express a legitimate opinion

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Re: Social Media Feedback

By Damo14/5 23:43Tue May 14 23:43:04 2024In response to Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

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No one wants to see “threatening behaviour” and / or “abuse”. If that is true it should be called out. As I have pointed out on X, a club official should meet with the SC committee and show the evidence of this “abuse” and, if the person is a SC member, they should be sanctioned. Poor behaviour by supporters reflects badly on the whole SC and the club as a whole. Also, never go into someone’s DMs. If you have something to say, say it so everyone can see and be accountable.
That said, there’s a lot of nonsense written by people involved with the club who act like they are the PR for the board. They get called out on their nonsense and go crying that they are being bullied.
When the board tell you it’s lovely sunshine, you don’t go on social media telling everyone to enjoy the sunshine without fact checking that it isn’t pissing with rain. Yes, that is a metaphor for how the board treats the supporters. The board have told us all is sunny and you, John Bangs, have passed that on when it was your role as a SC committee member and former chairman to challenge it on behalf of the supporters who elected you.

The PR from this club to its dwindling fan base, and potential new fan base, is absolutely appalling.

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By John Bangs15/5 06:34Wed May 15 06:34:31 2024In response to Re: Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

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I am glad to see that we in agreement that there should not be abusive or threatening behaviour.I think you make a good point about not using Direct Messaging but saying things openly and being accountable.

Another post echoes your suggestion of sharing evidence with the Supporters Club. It will be interesting to hear if the Supporters Club itself is in agreement with this proposal.

On a personal note, I can see why there is criticism that while I was SC Chair that I did not challenge some of what was being said by previous directors. In hindsight, I don’t think I can argue that I got that right. I also noticed that you managed to make a clear and strong criticism of this without resort to swearing or abuse. I respect that even if I did not enjoy reading what you had written.

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By Suom Ynona14/5 23:25Tue May 14 23:25:07 2024In response to Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

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Complete nonsense from the board and their acolytes. Declaring war on fans, refusing to engage with them and apologise for past lies is sure to work for them. No doubt Yioryos Putin was upset that his begging scheme wasn't well received and has ordered a crackdown.

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By John Bangs14/5 23:36Tue May 14 23:36:14 2024In response to Re: Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

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This was not order by Yioryos , It is about whether debate can happen without abuse and attempted intimidation.

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By jon tolley15/5 07:57Wed May 15 07:57:17 2024In response to Re: Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

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if the person who is doing comms for a week now has the ability to write press releases then that’s seems like an issue to me. (as someone who was involved in the steering group from Anderson when we hired people in to do it for us)

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By Alastair15/5 07:41Wed May 15 07:41:58 2024In response to Re: Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

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“This was not order by Yioryos , It is about whether debate can happen without abuse and attempted intimidation.”

Thanks for clarifying this John. On that basis I’ll direct my enquiries to Bangs & Bangs.

If people don’t know: I was blocked by the official club Twitter yesterday. I helped to run that account for nearly a decade. I’m front and centre in the picture being used to promote the new club draw, and in that picture while everyone watches the game at Macclesfield, there I am not watching and diligently updating our social media.

Now I’ve been blocked so I can’t even follow matches I can’t go to. It’s a sorry state of affairs.

But that’s one thing. And I can live with being blocked by this dreadful regime.

What I can’t stand for, in the strongest possible terms, is the insinuation made on here by you, and worse on the public forum Twitter by our new head of comms, that bans/blocks have been due to abuse, threatening language, and worse of all intimidating DMs.

You are heavily implying that I have behaved like this. I have not and any implication that I have is a flat out lie. The worst thing I can be accused of is using the word “w*nkers” in a quote tweet which wasn’t even directed at any individual. Don’t pretend that this is abuse.

This really is a new low.

Edited by Alastair at 07:42:25 on 15th May 2024

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Re: Social Media Feedback

By Cardiff Ks (reximus)15/5 21:48Wed May 15 21:48:35 2024In response to Re: Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

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Until this matter is resolved, I've chosen to unfollow the Club's official accounts on Twitter and Facebook.

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Re: Social Media Feedback

By Korky115/5 21:25Wed May 15 21:25:14 2024In response to Re: Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

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Maybe they can get lower.

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By Filipo15/5 07:48Wed May 15 07:48:38 2024In response to Re: Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

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Lies

Bans

Blocking

New propaganda team

To think when I challenged this yesterday I was the one referred to as a dictator!

Reminder: I was asked to stand on the SC committee, I was elected by my fellow supporters. I am happy to stand aside to let others have a go or take the SC forward, I wish the football club chairman would do the same!

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By Korky115/5 21:26Wed May 15 21:26:09 2024In response to Re: Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

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Hear, hear.

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By Damo14/5 23:45Tue May 14 23:45:40 2024In response to Re: Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

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If this press release on the official website and released on X did not come from the chairman, who did it come from? It’s an official press release so someone sanctioned it or did the new communications person called Bangs release this of his own accord?

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By Suom Ynona14/5 23:39Tue May 14 23:39:07 2024In response to Re: Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

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Nonsense. I've seen the comments made and none are intimidating or abusive. Calling out terrible leadership and decision making does not constitute this. As for the private messages, release them to the supporters club and then they can investigate their members further? Or is the club cutting all ties with the supporters club because they don't like being questioned?

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By irishk15/5 07:07Wed May 15 07:07:56 2024In response to Re: Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

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Chairman of Kingstonian FC on the blatant misuse and deception of the AFC money: We will be making no further comments on this matter both now or in the future.


@KingstonianFC: We in no way wish to censor your genuine feedback


All a bit gaslighty for me.

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By Kingting (Ksuals)15/5 10:47Wed May 15 10:47:20 2024In response to Re: Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

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Note to RBK
,take a look at the threads on this forum and keep well away from any involvement with KFC it's toxic

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By PC Copper15/5 21:16Wed May 15 21:16:01 2024In response to Re: Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

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That could probably be a fair warning to the new manager, players and other potential investors too.

I appreciate that people quite rightly feel passionate about a number of on going issues.

However, this is a public forum and anyone with an ounce of common sense would surely look in here as part of their own due diligence before becoming involved.

If they have two ounces of common sense, they'd turn around and walk in the opposite direction....

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By Korky115/5 21:29Wed May 15 21:29:16 2024In response to Re: Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

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The main directors have walked in the other direction.

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By OptimisticK16/5 09:58Thu May 16 09:58:13 2024In response to Re: Social Media FeedbackTop of thread

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https://x.com/JonTolleyTweets/status/1790638528570827015

is a disgrace.

The whole Kingstonian twitter has been taken over by rascals arguing with loyal volunteers and now we're snitching to our friends at the council over a few £££ to bolster Scott Harris's promotion push. All very avoidable!

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By JamieB (JBreeze)16/5 10:05Thu May 16 10:05:06 2024In response to Re: THISTop of thread

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Behave.

This is ensuring we are complying with law especially when it comes to the council when we will need their help finding a new ground.

What would have been worse is if the scheme did break the rules and Kingstonian got fined damaging the reputation with the council

Fans are also well within their right for right of reply when serious accusations are made.

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By jon tolley16/5 10:16Thu May 16 10:16:25 2024In response to Re: THISTop of thread

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there was once a fan on here, i can't remember who now, who said that KBH were inexperienced young chaps.

I dunno, i've sat on Licensing Committees that oversee gambling and am confident this doesn't yet comply. I hope I am wrong. You can argue whether or not gambling is okay, lots of people think it is. Although we don't want to be sponsored by gambling companies. But we do want to raise funds by watching horse racing. it's a grey area.

What is black and white tho, is there's a duty to follow the regulations of whichever local authority we are in for this season. Inexperience may in fact be a problem.

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By OptimisticK16/5 10:30Thu May 16 10:30:42 2024In response to Re: THISTop of thread

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Big difference in horse racing and sponsoring a shirt Jon!

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By Mike (KsMikey)16/5 10:29Thu May 16 10:29:40 2024In response to Re: THISTop of thread

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It would be a question that Merton Council need to address

You can’t just have money raising schemes etc without protection of the public and the customers

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By jon tolley16/5 10:31Thu May 16 10:31:11 2024In response to Re: THISTop of thread

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I think it’s wherever the company is based? so it might be another authority. I’m sure the Licensing officers would be able to direct

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By Mike (KsMikey)16/5 10:37Thu May 16 10:37:17 2024In response to Re: THISTop of thread

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I’ll bow to your knowledge and experience

Edit - link to the Gambling Commission guide. All need to be registered with the relevant LA

https://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/public-and-players/guide/types-of-lotteries-and-their-regulations

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By OptimisticK16/5 10:15Thu May 16 10:15:23 2024In response to Re: THISTop of thread

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They just can't do right in some people's eyes. All clubs do these draws. It's what keeps them in business.

What next? Asking for GDPR policies when we sign up???

Common sense gone MAD

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By PlayupKs16/5 10:35Thu May 16 10:35:55 2024In response to Re: THISTop of thread

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Appears the club would disagree with you (maybe it’s difficult to keep up). From the clubs recent press release…

We appreciate some follower's recent feedback regarding our moderation and policies…. we want to stress that we in no way wish to censor your genuine feedback.

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