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Ground update

By Filipo27/9/2024 16:41Fri Sep 27 16:41:55 2024

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/www.kingstonianfc.com/news/board-statement-27-09-2024

Don’t forget on 31 July we were told:

‘We have employed a project manager and he has identified several sites within the Borough where we could build a new ground. Building a ground will, of course, be subject to gaining the necessary planning consents.

An architect has been employed to draw up plans for one of the sites. These plans have been presented to the current leaseholder for their approval. We have also presented the plans to Kingston Borough Council and they have promised to work with us to meet the planning requirements.’

I wonder how the project manager and architect are getting on?

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Re: Ground update

By Korky129/9/2024 12:45Sun Sep 29 12:45:27 2024In response to Ground updateTop of thread

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Not to well I should imagine,hopefully they will get their fees when they present their findings to the S/C at the board meeting to be arranged .

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Re: Ground update

By Alastair28/9/2024 20:37Sat Sep 28 20:37:00 2024In response to Ground updateTop of thread

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Talking of architects: any of the architects of this total debacle (Anderson, Vasilaras, Page, Bangs) got anything to say for themselves?

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Re: Ground update

By Korky129/9/2024 12:47Sun Sep 29 12:47:13 2024In response to Re: Ground updateTop of thread

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You are forgetting Winwright ,Fenwick .

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Re: Ground update

By Cardiff Ks (reximus)28/9/2024 21:33Sat Sep 28 21:33:35 2024In response to Re: Ground updateTop of thread

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What's that expression - something about being the architect of your own misfortune?

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Re: Ground update

By SDG (SDG (Ks))27/9/2024 18:18Fri Sep 27 18:18:00 2024In response to Ground updateTop of thread

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Let's be crystal clear here. The Hawker Centre has been an open secret among Ks fans for over a year. The fans obediently kept it off the internet to give the board a chance but this day was always coming. The only surprise is that it never even got as far as a public announcement that it was planned.

There will be a focus on how we handled relations with the YMCA and rightly so - protracted negotiations that came to nothing, no attempt to bring the fans or community with us, a women's team statement on Monday unnecessarily criticising the site and now a main club statement that has totally burned any bridges.

But there's a bigger picture here that this is yet another stadium plan that had zero chance of success.

The Hawker Centre is not only Metropolitan Open Land, it's also in a riverside conservation area. To think we could plonk a step 3 stadium there without immense public opposition was always for the birds. Floodlights by a tranquil bit of the river. The noise of non-league football right outside people's houses until 10 at night. Parking and traffic chaos in residential streets.

This would never have survived first contact with the public. Residents would have gone ballistic, local Facebook groups would have been blowing up, politicians would have been falling over themselves to oppose it. Richmond Council would surely have come out against it given the impact it would have had the other side of the river. It would have been dead within days just as Lovelace was.

We don't exactly what the RBK said to the club but I'm honestly surprised they didn't warn the club off more strongly. I can only assume they just don't have a full picture of what step 3 football involves - I remember Ando giving it the 'not the San Siro' chat in one of his interviews. If they did they would surely have said no from the off.

And of course all this comes before we even talk about the money and the idea we could have done this project for only half a million or whatever we have left after years of wasting the AFC money to protect the playing budget.

It's been said a million times but the board need to stop wasting time and money on schemes that get more and more unrealistic with every new one. The only two possibilities are the same two they've been for years now - the university or the athletics stadium. KBH have known this for years but were dismissed.

It's now almost ten years since we announced we were leaving KM, in which time we haven't even cleared the first hurdle for finding a ground. Hopefully this time the board will finally learn some lessons from what's gone so badly wrong over the last decade.

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Re: Ground update

By Taimour (WeHateWombles)27/9/2024 19:06Fri Sep 27 19:06:13 2024In response to Re: Ground updateTop of thread

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It's not too late for the club to remove and rewrite this statement so that Ks look, at the very least, like a competent, well-intentioned and cooperative partner to others.

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Re: Ground update

By Kingting (Ksuals)28/9/2024 07:24Sat Sep 28 07:24:24 2024In response to Re: Ground updateTop of thread

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That boat sailed for quite a few from Chessington after talks with Ks re ground sharing

Ksuals

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Re: Ground update

By Suom Ynona27/9/2024 18:25Fri Sep 27 18:25:05 2024In response to Re: Ground updateTop of thread

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Better yet, the clowns on the board f**k off. I've heard that young, inexperienced chaps at W&H have done a great job...

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Re: Ground update

By Alastair27/9/2024 18:36Fri Sep 27 18:36:57 2024In response to Re: Ground updateTop of thread

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The current board won’t go anywhere. They’ve got the womble money to waste for a good while yet, and the personalities involved are incapable of admitting they have nothing positive to bring to the table.

It’s a sorry state of affairs but the previous board - in essentially handing their shares to these people - are equally culpable.

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Re: Ground update

By Suom Ynona27/9/2024 17:16Fri Sep 27 17:16:33 2024In response to Ground updateTop of thread

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I read that as the YMCA realising that they could not trust our moronic board. It was irrelevant anyway as they'd have never got planning permission. Yet more money wasted by an egotistical prat and his acolytes.

Edited by Suom Ynona at 17:40:54 on 27th September 2024

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Re: Ground update

By Taimour (WeHateWombles)27/9/2024 16:44Fri Sep 27 16:44:58 2024In response to Ground updateTop of thread

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I dread to think how much they've wasted on designing Lovelace 2. Perhaps the drawings can go on display in a Kingstonian Memorial section of Kingston Museum.

"This is despite the Royal Borough of Kingston Council (RBK) in June this year advising us to submit a pre-planning application proposal" - so the council didn't actually support the idea. They just said "yeah, put in a proposal and see how it goes....

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Re: Ground update

By Taimour (WeHateWombles)27/9/2024 16:52Fri Sep 27 16:52:39 2024In response to Re: Ground updateTop of thread

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I predict this statement in 18 months from now: "Kingstonian are pleased to announced that we have formally written to Kingston Council to express our interest in playing at Kingsmeadow Athletics Stadium. We can assure all fans that we have sent an email to the correct address and await a reply. The next Meet The Board event will go ahead as planned. We have exciting plans for social media and marketing ahead of the new Combined Counties campaign."

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Re: Ground update

By old and grey28/9/2024 19:13Sat Sep 28 19:13:29 2024In response to Re: Ground updateTop of thread

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The time has come for the board to realise that the athletics stadium is
The ONLY option now available and should make every effort to make it
happen.

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Re: Ground update

By jon tolley28/9/2024 19:38Sat Sep 28 19:38:27 2024In response to Re: Ground updateTop of thread

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same as it ever was

just we’ve got half a million less to make it workable

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Re: Ground update

By JamieB (JBreeze)27/9/2024 16:50Fri Sep 27 16:50:13 2024In response to Re: Ground updateTop of thread

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The new statement reads as if the YMCA should have been eternally grateful we even wanted to go there. Really really poor. They owe us nothing

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Re: Ground update

By MC27/9/2024 18:39Fri Sep 27 18:39:50 2024In response to Re: Ground updateTop of thread

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Not THAT annoyed by the announcement itself as it just seemed obvious to me for reasons covered by SDG. No chance you're ever building a football ground there, sorry. Would have been a dream. But was never reality.

But, as JamieB says, the statement itself is more annoying. Just self-entitled nonsense.

I particularly object to the 'This is despite...' line. That doesn't make any sense. The YMCA haven't rejected us 'despite' RBK advising us to submit an application.

Just strikes me as a club who don't understand the basics needed for a project on this scale.

The board are not fit to oversee something like this. Any ground build is complex. You need competence on the board, local support, council support and fans on board and helping to drive it all. This club offers none of this.

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Re: Ground update

By SDG (SDG (Ks))27/9/2024 19:13Fri Sep 27 19:13:20 2024In response to Re: Ground updateTop of thread

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Not THAT annoyed by the announcement itself

In some ways I'm pleased, at least we've ripped the plaster off and can move on rather than wasting even more time and money on something that was never going to happen anyway.

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Re: Ground update

By JamieB (JBreeze)27/9/2024 20:27Fri Sep 27 20:27:49 2024In response to Re: Ground updateTop of thread

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Aye but have still wasted money on it when it was never going to happen.

18 months apparently of discussions

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Re: Ground update

By irishk27/9/2024 20:47Fri Sep 27 20:47:12 2024In response to Re: Ground updateTop of thread

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Interesting that the man the chairman presented as our ground guru back in February tweeted this:

https://x.com/surreyhire/status/1839691728342679809

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Re: Ground update

By Kingting (Ksuals)28/9/2024 07:25Sat Sep 28 07:25:44 2024In response to Re: Ground updateTop of thread

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Why's it unbelievable?

Ksuals

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